there a lot of places to camp in Dallas
well not necessarily in Dallas but it's a very short drive to areas near here
uh-huh do you do a lot of camping
well i have done camping in the past uh
i can't remember when the last time i actually went camping was it was uh several years ago and then i did most of my camping in the mountains
uh-huh well that must have been fun though
well it is i enjoy hiking and camping we went Sangre de Cristos to the i have uh some land there and so it's it's handy to to station yourself there on the land and then
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make trips up into the mountains for backpacking and hiking and and overnight camping
well that sounds fun
do you do most of yours in tents
yeah we've done ours i've only been camping twice
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and one of them i don't really consider camping it was on the edge of the lake
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and it was at a camp i don't like those camping grounds where you know you got R V beside you and then another people in tents beside you
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i just don't care for that
no i agree with you i think it's much nicer when you can really get out far enough away where that you can't see people right out the window but
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it doesn't uh we uh four years ago it was about four years ago my little boy was three months old and the first time i left him we went overnight camping and we went and we found this little peninsula out in the middle of nowhere by the lake
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and we had a ball just sat out there with our we didn't even use tents then we just had uh sleeping bags and fire going and we fried potatoes and bacon and everything for breakfast the next morning oh it did it did
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doesn't that always taste so much better when you're out like that yeah
oh it did it did i didn't even think about frying potatoes but my sister-in-law she's always done a lot of camping
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and she's good she'd think about bringing a rake so you can rake your area out and you know
that's right if you don't you'll find every rock on it when you
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put your when you put your bag down
well she yeah she was she is always prepared i mean she brought everything from like i said toilet paper to the rake the only thing we'd had to do
we had to go out looking for some kind of a grill you know
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we and we and we seen this old refrigerator that somebody had dumped
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and we broke the i guess it's the freezing component and we broke that out of there and put it over our um hole
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oh what a clever idea i wouldn't have thought about that
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well it held our pan and you know the potatoes and stuff we had a good time
oh that's a good idea
yeah we're still waiting to go again
um-hum well if you get a chance now there are some really nice camping areas uh up in the Wichitas which is in Oklahoma and uh Arkansas
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i can't remember the name it's it's on the Oklahoma Arkansas border
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and it won't take but just a you know just a quick look at a map to find
where those mountains are but i took a drive up through there as a matter of fact last September just took the drive through to see what was there they have some wonderful camping areas there beautiful beautiful country
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well i love to swim so i like to get out by a lake or a uh you know somewhere close where we can swim
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yeah
right well Lake Lake Tawakoni is a pretty nice place
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and we had a two bedroom mobile home there but the boys still liked to throw their sleeping bags out by the lake and build a little fire and roast their marshmallows until the mosquitoes bit and then they came in
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yeah
how old are your boys
oh oh they're grown now
oh so they don't go camping with you
they go camping on their own once you start them they enjoy it all their lives
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yeah well i haven't taken my little boy yet i'm afraid to get him out he is
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so fearless he it terrifies me he
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oh don't be concerned there's much less for them to get hurt on camping than there is elsewhere
think so well it's the water he's not scared of he'll go out into it until it's up to his nose
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and then try to tread back
uh-huh well it's easy to keep him occupied though on land i know that i took my kids we'd go out and i've them walk with me along the lakefront and we'd have a little contest finding the tiniest shell and finding the biggest shell and
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or we'd hunt pine cones or we climbed some uh pinon pines one year and gathered the cones so that we could eat the pine nuts
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and we did a lot of naturalist work when we were out we you know we we searched for dock and we ate the wild plants and we gathered wild berries and uh it's really
you know the the mountains can accommodate you if you know what to find
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if you know what to look for
uh-huh i had my boys build their own little camp you know three leg camp stools by cutting a branch off the tree and binding them together with bark
well that sounds so neat
and uh we cooked in a pot i baked them a cake right there on a camp fire they were so impressed i used a tire chain and the bottom of a Dutch oven
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well i'm impressed my
my mother-in-law and my well they've always done a lot of camping i grew up in Louisville Kentucky and there wasn't
i don't know but we just didn't get out my mother and my father split up when we were young so and my mother wasn't into that and that's who i stayed with
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so we didn't do much outdoors stuff except swimming and we went swimming a lot
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and uh
oh excuse me my baby's getting sick
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i know
well if our time is up we can quit
yeah um i've got to clean her up i'm sorry
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appreciate it i enjoyed talking thank you bye-bye
you bet bye-bye
