well i grew up out in the country and uh was used to having uh guns around the place and uh i'm
uh-huh
i'm not for gun control in the strictest sense of the uh word
uh-huh
i i think i'm kind of bent towards middle liberal of the bridge myself you know i have quite a collection myself and you know i'm a good hunter and i
yeah
started hunting when i was twelve years old of course my parents made me take hunters safety classes and you know i don't want to see them ban guns completely but i don't want them to completely turn loose of their controls either
yeah
yeah well i i feel that its uh i think the what was it the National Rifle Association uh had this bumper sticker a few years back if uh about if you outlaw guns only outlaws will have guns then
so
i believe that
and i believe that too because the person that's wanting to commit a crime is going to find a way to get a gun gun gun a knife a a rock a stick whatever it is to commit a crime with
yeah
yeah
and it's the honest citizens like ourselves that are responsible about use of guns uh we can handle it but there's a element that can't
yeah and it's you know it's got to the point now where even our our police departments and our DEA agents and everything have to carry automatic weapons because everybody that's in drug trafficking trafficking has got them
you have got them outgunned
you know yeah so
there was a an article in the paper just this week where i think it's uh
one of the gun companies i can't remember which was developing a ten millimeter ten millimeter
automatic pistol for the FBI which would give them additional firepower it had held like a fifteen shot clip which uh would be able they they would be able to put down anything that came at them
um
yeah
yeah that would be
but if you figure you got some drug guy out there that's got an Uzi machine gun uh a a a thirty eight uh Smith and Wesson revolver isn't going to do you much good
yeah that's
no it's sure not huh-uh
yeah i have lived in uh Illinois at one time and they they passed a uh it wasn't really gun control but it was you had to register as a gun owner you didn't have to list your guns
yeah
but you had to have this card it was like a driver's license card that you had to have it in order to buy ammunition
hum
and that's the first uh this was twenty years ago but they had that so that uh they were trying to control it a little bit uh in that respect
yeah
see in California they
pardon
in California they make you register when you buy ammunition
yeah uh-huh
you have to sign a they you know take your name and driver's license number hunter hunting license number and all that good stuff before you can buy any big ammunition
yeah
yeah
especially for handguns now rifles aren't too bad but
yeah
you know any kind of handgun at all if it will fit in a handgun and a rifle you still have to buy it or sign up for it so
yeah
we lived in Tennessee for awhile and i bought a pistol there and there was a fifteen day waiting period you had to fill out an application and go down to the sheriff's office and get fingerprinted
uh-huh
gee
and then you had fifteen days while they checked to see if you had any kind of criminal record before that you could pick up the gun you were purchasing
gee that's not a bad idea
and no i think that uh you know a a waiting period uh can make a difference but again it's going to be the law abiding citizen that's going to comply with that
yeah
yeah yeah it is
so there's i don't think there's any way to control the criminal element as far as guns is concerned because
no
the the only way they could do it i think would be to stiffen the penalties on anybody using a gun
right right
you know i think if we kind of stiffen them up a little bit course i i feel kind of weird about that anyway i think if somebody shoots somebody they ought to be shot so
yeah i'm we we're getting into capital punishment now but i i agree with you there that uh
yeah but you know
it would definitely be gun control
yeah the uh the again the purpose of gun control is to control how it's being used is what the purpose should be
yeah
yeah
it's not to keep people from buying a gun that need one for a specific purpose legal purpose but to keep the guy that's illegal from getting his hands on one
yeah
yeah yeah
and i'm in favor of keeping the the illegal guy from getting one in his hands but the legal person or lawful person should not be penalized because there is the criminal element
myself
yeah well and the they're actually a necessity in life you know they're not you know not everybody needs a gun but
oh yes
sooner or later i need one you know whether i'm out hunting or you know i've never had to protect my life or well i did in the service but not you know not on the street
yeah
so i don't really need one in the aspect in the aspects
you don't have to carry one in your car or your uh or your pocket all the time yeah
no huh-uh
oh so mine are you know i use mine for recreation i don't and i enjoyed my guns i have a good time with them so
yeah
yeah
well i know what uh i took my kids out and taught them how to shoot a gun gun my wife the same thing uh she knows how to shoot any weapon that we have not not that i have an arsenal or anything but we have several guns around the house
yeah
one of these days my grandkids probably
probably yeah
but i think it's uh you got to have have the places living in Dallas there's not that many places to go shoot
no huh-uh
but uh still i think they ought to know how to use one and it is not just a toy and that when
it's not like on TV when someone gets shot uh they get back up if someone gets shot with a real gun they don't get back up
yeah
yeah i had to explain that to my i've got a six year old now and and he you know i have a fifteen year old and a seventeen year old well they understand now
yeah
you know i've taken time to teach them and now the young boy wants to know and
you know like i told him you're a little bit young for a gun let me go out here and you know we'd start with the BB gun deal you know so he started with the BB gun and shot a couple of holes in a couple of windows and i took it away from him i said now
yeah
you know so he's learning the hard way but at least it was a BB gun not a twenty two or a four ten or something so
yeah
uh
i remember i had an old uncle up by Tulsa Oklahoma that took me out and uh showed me this was it was not my it was my mother's uncle this was a gentleman in his sixties
gee
and he took me out with him and uh single shot twenty two and taught me how to shoot we went squirrel hunting and
uh-huh
all right
and uh he taught me how to shoot uh an old single shot twenty two and i probably i was probably about twelve at the time and i thought that was the neatest thing at first and Uncle Sam took me out took me hunting with h im and he let me shoot and showed me how
uh-huh
yeah
all right
i think there is a lot of responsibility on any of us gun owners to make sure that whoever is around us is at least safe and knows how to use one
right
you know i don't want to get out there deer hunting and have some guy blow me away so
oh yeah
well that's about all i we agreed pretty well on this i think so okay well it's been real nice talking with you okay bye
yeah i think so uh
all right have a good one bye-bye
