um i think we can have honest government what do you think
well i think there are honest people in our government i think it's uh
and we do have some checks and balances to keep it honest but i think it's always a real challenge to um
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make sure that we have people in there that we can count on
yeah
to be honest
well
i've thought about the politicians that go in and you know they say none of them are honest but i think they're honest when they go in they just keep
facing these challenges and not all of them respond favorably to them
yeah i think there are and have been some things that have been done to maybe
make things better you know one thing is the opportunity on our income tax to um allow certain donations
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to uh be made because a a lot of times i think you know people anybody that runs for a political office has got to either be independently wealthy
yeah
or they've got to be beholding to somebody to help them
yeah some special interest group
yeah
and so you know i think if if there were ways that we could get away from that and let just the common man be able to run
yeah
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for office that that
and
yeah and of course he runs into a problem he may not can support the two homes and all of the other things even though they have a high salary
yeah
but
it's just uh i think public service was originally meant for public service but it it's gotten to where it's kind of rather hard to do
as public service you know
they need uh money to operate on and this and that and feed their family and put their kids in college just like everybody else does
that's right
and that puts stress
yeah
yeah well my husband has um held public office for a while and not a paid public office i might add and uh if
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oh
that's public service
yeah that's more public service i guess than public office and it's been a real eye-opener to us course i feel that he's completely honest and
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yes
what all and there have people been people that have said
you know that they
how much is he being paid and all this kind of stuff to to do things and
oh yeah
you always have people throwing stones don't you
yeah well obviously if they ever looked at our house or our car or whatever they would know he's not getting paid anything but um
yeah well uh
i guess that that uh it's it's the way people perceive and they perceive from their own wants too sometimes
yeah i think that's true
yeah they want somebody else in so they've got to find something wrong with whoever's there
yeah that's probably true too
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but at the same time you know when i go to the polls to vote
yes
um i always am real nervous about who i'm voting for even if i have studied the issues and heard what people have had to say and everything because
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um you don't know really know that person you know and you don't know even if what they say is what they're gonna do and what their real feelings are on a lot of things i mean
no you don't
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well sometimes they don't know that what they say is what they gonna do
absolutely
and depends on the situation and that makes it very difficult
yeah
i guess that's a real problem you know i i i don't know how we solve that one because i'm not sure that you can ever especially the the higher up you go you know like a senator or
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congressman or something like that i don't know how you would ever get to know any of those people well enough to say you know i know this man on a personal basis i know he has integrity and i know he
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right
you know
and to go by voting records and that isn't always right
yeah or or just read the League of Women Voters answers that they give or
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yeah
yeah so it's sometimes you just don't know
no i just uh
kind of do the best you can isn't it
that's right
yeah well what do you think about um um the legality or making it illegal to do certain things do you think that helps
um
calling them accountable from a a law standpoint
well that would be nice if we could do that
yeah
well i know uh some of them the Senate Ethics Committee is trying to do that
but uh it's really strange that they find someone totally guilty of something and then they go back and talk to their constituency and i'm thinking about one in particular
oh uh-huh
and uh then the constituency says oh well he's honest and we want him you know
oh i can think of one like that also just blows your mind doesn't it oh think so
yeah i'm sure we both can
yeah it sure does and then they've proved that he's lined his pockets and everything else
yeah oh yeah
but i
