i'm kind of ambivalent myself uh oh we we have that kind of a program at uh at work but uh i'm not crazy about it myself
well i think that it can be um a hassle but
considering some of the things we picked up um i think it's i think it means as much to get a clean one i think being able to prove that you're clean is is quite beneficial to the employee
uh-huh
especially when there's been in an accident of some kind or you know something didn't go right
right
i know our company requires it before uh employment and then if there's an accident on the job they require it
oh right
and i does your company do the same
um they require they require it before
on a accident
uh employment as as a condition of employment and then uh they have random testing
yeah
okay
i don't know about after accidents because industrial accidents i guess are relatively rare at TI
well we hope they are at ours too but that's just in our policy and procedures
yeah
but um we um i think in a in a way it's a protection for the employee
i really
because they can say that uh it definitely wasn't their fault if they work on it you know hurt on the job
i guess you could view it that way i tend to be more concerned about uh where it'll go from here and uh
yeah
also i not convinced that the at least the kind of people that i work with i'm not convinced that that's really uh doing much for the program for the uh drug problem
oh well i think uh
the sensitiveness of either one of other professions requires complete ability to think properly
um-hum
and i think from that viewpoint it's not a bad idea but uh i'm not sure that the random testing i'm not so sure
but i think if um if there's any suspicion that a person is using drugs i think that the employer should be able to do a little bit of testing
yeah for cause
oh yeah yeah for cause
for cause i just um i'm not convinced that that wheeling all this machinery in place and testing a lot of um
uh
people who as far as i can tell
uh i i think the yield is very low
yeah it is even around here
um
it's uh a lot of expense i know for
oh it is um-hum it's a lot of trouble too because most of the time especially for TI they have to do chain of custody
companies that aren't doing well
and um with even with the money we charge for it it uh
um-hum
it uh it's not a money maker
no
not at all but we we do have in our particular facility we have a special area
where uh we do special toxicology work and uh the security involved is tremendous so it's uh
one of those things that i know at least in our area is it provides properly which should be you know kind of comforting to people who have to have it done
yeah
yeah well i haven't been uh selected for random testing yet but i'm not looking forward to it
well oh well all you have to do is go in and give a specimen then go on your merry way
yeah i understand that yeah but i'm more something of a civil libertarian i guess
yeah don't have to worry about it
oh well
and uh
i think uh i'm just worried about what what they'll do next
well yeah there's some of the tests that uh i think uh still we have a right to privacy
yeah particularly if there um i'm worried about this business of uh detecting everything that could be possibly wrong with anybody and then adjusting health insurance accordingly
oh yeah oh yeah i know when some of the disclaimers came out you know and permissions you had to give on health insurance
they're gonna start there's
yeah
uh right first i had this young lady read it i said i want you to be sure and read this before you sign it
she read it she said i think i'll go call my lawyer
yeah
she came back in and she says i don't think i want this and i said i thought didn't think you might but you sign away your rights
right
i'm afraid they'll start uh picking out people with every possible type of risk factor and trying to exclude them from health coverage
oh yeah
well they do that to some extent already
yeah so i i'd
we went into that
right drug testing could uh could be the first step towards that so i hope they do it very very carefully and uh
right
we could
um
well uh
sensitive to what the to the peoples privacy
um-hum we do them um for the people i have a have a program where we can do them for the individual
um-hum
which is a little unusual but its done through the auspices
