hi
i'm Bridget
i'm Paul
nice to meet you
pleased to meet you
where are you
i'm in Texas
are you so am i where are you in Texas
Dallas
okay i'm in Lubbock
oh okay
okay are you ready for me to push one
sure anytime
okay
so what do you think about capital punishment
well i think it's a necessary uh
a necessary tool that uh needs to be used uh to establish justice in some cases and to that that it if used properly
uh-huh
uh i think it can be uh it would it would be a useful deterrent
um-hum
what do you think about Jeffrey Dahmer
like not getting since they don't have it in
yeah well i think that
i think there are certain
people in society that have no redeeming
yeah
uh worth to them and that it's it it's a waste for society to continue to support those people those people should be
you know disposed of
yeah
i know because it's like it's kind of like a tough call because all they do is sit in jail and the jails are overcrowded you know it's like problem upon problem upon problem
that's right
it's like you could put them in jail for the rest of his life well all the jails are already overcrowded
you know and they add more problems
you know since jails are overcrowded they have to reduce you know
time to like one third of what you're supposed to do it you know it gets kind of ridiculous
yeah
that's right i mean they probably you know we
the you know our our justice system is not designed to be either efficient or effective or just you know it it's designed
yeah
as a set of artificial rules that you know judges and lawyers play with each other
um-hum
i know i i guess i could be for it and against it in some ways i mean
i think i'm definitely for it and stuff when i think of someone like like him that killed all those people and has
no remorse or anything you know i feel like that's the right thing to do and i guess i would have to say it would be for more circumstances you know
well it it it uh yeah but it you know the the problem is
it when when we administer it
by you know i i mean like like in Texas we have the death penalty right and they killed a guy a while back and you know he'd been in jail for twelve or fifteen years or something like that waiting
uh-huh
right
uh you know waiting waiting waiting waiting his sentence
yeah see i think that what is the point of that
what what
there there's no point in it i mean
where did that come from
well it it's because it's because
you know people don't wanna recognize
how to make you know how to how to make a punishment effective
yeah
i mean it
punishing the person by killing them doesn't do anybody any good
um-hum
the only reason the only way it does some good is if it convinces convinces somebody else that they shouldn't do something like that
yeah that's true definitely true
and you know if the guy waits around ten or twenty years or whatever it is you know how is that a deterrent to anybody
see why do you have any clue why that they sit on like death row that long
because the courts require it
i mean they they they have said that well everybody has to have certain you know has to have the the the right to appeal well
see
yeah i understand that
but not only do they have the right to appeal they must appeal and you know they the the lawyers go in there and they generate
it takes prolong it forever
well they generate all kinds of possible reasons that they might be able to appeal uh you know they they're they're trying to generate
um-hum
technicalities you know things which aren't really related to whether the guy did it or not but as to whether something in the process was right or wrong
yeah
yeah the the
yeah
see
and you know it it it doesn't work you know our whole justice system doesn't work like that
yeah it'd be easier if at least if someone was
you know sentenced to death then if they were to have to have an appeal it should be taken care of as quickly as possible you know
yes that's right
and i understand appeals take a long time and everything else but you know
i mean they should have like
God there's something so it'd be done faster you know because then they complain about the jails and the
this and that and this and that and people sitting on death row for like fifteen years well that's dumb
yes
um-hum
it is it's terrible
mean mean at least if you're going to do it do it like because i mean that's like even torture kind of you know
oh i again i i don't feel sorry for the for the for the victim that that's on you know for the for the criminal
yeah
