i think that uh one uh advantage
of having uh the unanimous verdict is that in a criminal case you want to make sure that you don't uh convict someone who uh really shouldn't be convicted um
definitely
and i think that you know a unanimous verdict uh helps to ensure that i guess uh maybe one drawback of it is that if you have one juror who
is very unreasonable in some way that uh
you uh would have a problem
uh you know that you wouldn't convict someone who maybe should be convicted
um-hum
have you ever served on a jury before
uh i have twice
it was pretty wild experience
oh
uh what sorts of cases were they
they were just you know small town cases where uh trailers and banks were involved you know
so were they criminal or civil
they were civil they weren't they weren't any criminal
oh okay
what uh what was the verdict did the did the jury have trouble reaching a decision
uh the jury it was uh let me see i think it was ten to one on the jury because they only had to have eleven people
yeah
so it was they and uh the one changed his vote
at the end
so did it become
so it became unanimous you know after they turned it in and then he changed his mind after they turned it in but it then became unanimous so
yeah
ah
oh
but since it was a civil case it really didn't matter right you just needed a majority
right
what was what was the other case that was also civil
the the uh other case was just traffic
the and you know it was seat belt law and it it didn't even hardly
yeah
oh didn't really even count
go through so
yeah i'm i'm a college student so i haven't been you know of a jury eligible age for very long um
yeah
and uh i did get um one summons actually at one point but i
declined it which i'm able to do because i'm a student because it was uh a very bad time
yeah well you learn a lot going to the juries like that though
yeah i mean i i really i would like to uh to do it at some point um but uh i i haven't
um one one thing that i i think is um
you know maybe is a problem is uh i i i think that the criminal jury system works pretty well now but i wonder if maybe in some civil cases it doesn't work as well
it
uh especially sort of
i wouldn't think that it does
ow well
i mean from from my experience from what i experienced in them it didn't you know it didn't
the
didn't turn out the as the way i planned it i mean the way that i would think that it would go it
ah but you thought it turned out pretty well
yeah but it was you know it was jury was unorganized and
it was it was just wasn't organized enough for me so
yeah
i'm not used to it not being organized and i just assumed assumed that it would have been
oh so it was just kind of a zoo and the jurors just sort of someone had to figure out what was going on
that's
that's about what it was
hum that's interesting did it did it work out pretty well in the end i mean did a couple of people sort of gradually sort of assume uh sort of a moderator role in the trial or
yeah they well they picked the one person and then he finally you know moderated everything and made it
turn out the way it should have so
so it worked it did end up working out pretty well
yeah it ended up working all right
the one thing i sometimes wonder about um in civil cases is uh
whether especially sort of in uh maybe like product product liability or medical malpractice where there's um sort of a very technical decision to be made sometimes
yes
you know it's not just a matter of um of you know did this guy rip off this guy and it's just a matter of interpreting a contract it's sort of a matter of
uh you know sometimes getting into very technical issues and i wonder if uh if there's really um
if the system works adequately in in educating the jurors about uh whatever um you know issue is under discussion
uh i don't think that they they they educate them enough to
to really know what's going on
in in the case you were involved in you said it was just sort of a a bank matter of some kind so
yeah the bank was suing them for uh because they went to get the the trailer
yeah
that which was assumingly their property it was on his property
ah
oh so the deal was that he had uh borrowed money from the bank to buy it and he hadn't made the payments
right
so they came to get it
yeah
and then when they came to get it well it it was on the landlord's property and he wouldn't let them take it off
ah so they were suing to get it back
so and they'd already it was a double wide so they'd already taken it apart
ah
so they left it there
yeah
and then when
they came back to get it a couple of days later it had rained and got all in it
uh
so they were suing him for the money and
you know there's no way they could because it's
it was the moving company