so how you like New Jersey
uh it's pretty good you know you get uh
closer to the uh coast here and you do get a good bit of uh smog and stuff especially from all the uh fuel cracking towers and chemical plants
right i guess uh i don't know what part of New Jersey you're in but i guess it's uh fairly industrial
yeah it's when you get further east towards New York City it gets very industrial
right uh-huh
but i'm i'm about uh thirty miles west of there so you have uh actually green trees and such that you don't notice that that other part of New Jersey exists actually very
yeah
yeah
right
yeah you you go even a few wide miles out and you got uh farms and everything so you relatively clear air
right
but uh
well i don't know about you but i've always considered automobiles to be probably the the prime contributor i mean there's a lot of contributors but it seems that automobiles would probably do more than their fair share of that
oh definitely definitely it's uh you know there are a large number of them on the road they're all
yeah
yeah going and a lot of them are in relatively poor repair
that's yeah that's that's a big issue is you know a lot of states don't have a uh inspection law so you get you get a lot of people out there without ETR emission control systems on their cars and things like that
oh even even where you do have the inspections you know the inspection is once a year
yeah and it's like
you get the car that's in the accident and muffler falls off or something and guy keeps driving along for long period of time after that
sure
right i guess from what i hear though uh next year Ford is coming out with their electric cars they're actually coming out with the first prototypes in California
yeah that and i think also some of the uh car companies are coming out with uh gas powered fleets
yeah
so you natural gas powered rather than uh gasoline
right i hope i i'm hoping that comes along quick
uh i was reading a an article in Time the other day about the ozone layer and how fast that's going and i guess it's it's really disappearing a lot quicker than people realize and i know that's not due to uh
it's not due to to gasoline or to you know carbon monoxide so much as the CFC's but
it it is coming from cars though
uh yeah i think that's a that's a contributor definitely
i mean the uh car air conditioners is one of the major leaking sources of uh the uh freon which is one of the major fluorocarbons chlorofar chlorofluorocarbons
right
right
yeah i guess right now what they're what they're primarily worried about is third world countries
because i guess United States and and Russia have kind of taken the lead in terms of eliminating CFC production but
well it it
it
go ahead
no it's the type of thing there that uh you know the Third World countries are less industrial and they want to become industrial
um-hum
so they're on the different part of the cycle of the US the US used you know all the air pollution stuff
and air polluting technologies to get where it is today
right and that's one of the arguments that the Third World countries have been using is that basically they don't want to have to pay for our mistakes
if if that makes any sense uh in terms of
or or they want the right to make the same mistakes themselves to bootstrap them up to the way where we got to
exactly exactly uh those of kind of yeah those are joining arguments but uh
i don't know that's that's kind of an interesting situation there uh what they don't realize
those third world countries what they don't realize is how quickly the ozone is depleting i guess the latest figures are up to fifty percent at the poles
and it's it's increasing even as far near the Equator as like Florida and Cuba and those places
yeah
so it's kind of an interesting situation it's not
not a real good one actually but
no well you also have the very close related thing of the uh rain forest destruction
yeah
which is the main source of what's clearing out the atmosphere and
uh-huh
replacing some of the pollutants
yeah
yeah you don't get that that source of cleansing anymore are have you been in big cities a long time
mostly i've mostly been in the east coast so that's going between Atlanta Washington DC area
okay so you've got yeah those are actually areas that are hit pretty hard i would think
well not not as hard as some places out west because you don't get the uh major pollution sources as you do out in Denver with the with the inversion and Los Angeles and all rest of California which is just terrible it sounds
yeah Denver's definitely yeah that's one of the worst
sure
yeah Denver's that that real good uh that real good uh example of sitting in a valley
kind of like Mexico City does i guess Mexico City is historically been one of the worst in the world for that
uh-huh
yeah
but i've been pretty lucky i've lived in cities that really haven't had that much of a problem although uh i'm really kind of based in Orlando Florida and
there you can tell that it's getting worse i mean it it definitely it's not at a level comparable to Los Angeles or Denver but you can
yeah there it's almost all automobiles because there's not that much in the way of heavy industry you know that would be causing it
exactly
yeah and there's not that much in terms of of public transportation down there there is but it's kind of it's
um-hum